Is the following narration authentic and can it be quoted?

Zirr ibn Hubaysh relates this story:

Two travellers sat together on the way to their destination to have a meal. One had five loaves of bread. The other had three. A third traveller was passing by and at the request of the two joined in the meal. The travellers cut each of the loaves of bread into three equal parts. Each of the travellers ate eight broken pieces of the loaf.

At the time of leaving the third traveller took out eight dirhams and gave them to the first two men who had offered him the meal, and went away. On receiving the money the two travellers started quarrelling as to who should have how much of the money. The five loaf man demanded five dirhams. The three loaf man insisted on dividing the money into two equal parts.

The dispute was brought to Sayyiduna ‘Ali (radiyallahu ‘anhu) to be decided.

Sayyiduna ‘Ali (radiyallahu ‘anhu) requested the person with three loaves to accept three dirhams, because the person with five loaves has been more than fair to you. The man with the three loaves refused. At this Sayyiduna ‘Ali (radiyallahu ‘anhu) replied, “You can have only one dirham.” You had eight loaves between yourselves. Each loaf was broken into three parts. Therefore, you had 24 equal parts. Your three loaves made nine parts out of which you have eaten eight portions, leaving just one to the third traveller. Your friend had five loaves which divided into three made fifteen pieces. He ate eight pieces and gave seven pieces to the guest. As such the guest shared one part from your loaves and seven from those of your friend. So you should get one dirham and your friend should receive seven dirhams.



Imam Ibn ‘Abdil Barr (rahimahullah) has recorded this incident under the biography of Sayyiduna ‘Ali (radiyallahu ‘anhu). I could not locate some narrators in this chain.

(Al Isti’ab, vol. 3 pg. 207/208)


‘Allamahs Mizzi and Suyuti (rahimahumallah) have also cited this incident.

(Tahdhibul Kamal, vol. 20 pg. 486, Tarikhul Khulafa, pg. 300)


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